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Price Guides last updated: July 2016

The State of ... Prices have been rising at a fair clip since our rulers had their central bank minions juice the markets with a combination of no low interest rates and massive financial stimulus. It’s really the only way they could afford the vig, short of default, which always leaves such a bad taste in your mouth. But, about April-May things really began taking off as prices spiked and they haven’t given anything back yet. Nothing much new was happening in World Econ 101 to explain it, so a best guess would be the impending July implementation of 41F negating CLEO sign-off.  The thousands of Trusts realizing that their world was about to change, not for the better, got off their butts and bought a gun. Even in an artificially constrained NFA market, increased demand means higher prices.

Remember there’s now a new Form 4 (and 1) without a CLEO certification section. Also, a completed copy of the form has to be sent to the CLEO before you send it to ATF NFA. The chances of NFA accepting an old Form 4 is less than zero.

A reminder that 2 charts have been added comparing weapons within a category. The first is comparing UZI Registered Receivers to Registered Bolts. The second is comparing “regular” M60s to M60E4 (MK43 Mod 0) to M60s originally built by Saco Maremont.

General Ranting - There are many reasons not to like Donald Trump and a few that might give shelter to not vote for him, but that cannot be a reason to support Hillary Clinton. Our next fearless leader will appoint at least 2 and maybe 3 or 4 Supreme Court justices. Clinton’s election could spell the demise of Heller and Citizens United with both our 1st and 2nd Amendment protections under attack. Hillary is deceitful and incompetent as she proved almost daily during her email scandal cover-up. Her definition of classified material changed almost as much as Bill’s former definition of the word “is”. FBI Director Comey did her no favors by laying out her pattern of consistent lies and incompetence, only stopping short of recommending indictment as ordered by his masters. Then there’s Benghazi and the criminal cover-up that unfortunately dwarfs the incredible bad judgment of Hillary and her boss. Throw in the Clinton Foundation’s financial slush fund with foreign entanglements and there’s ample real evidence that she should be in jail. But another set of rules have always applied to the Clintons and that’s the rub. The laws just don’t apply to them.

Finally, the notion that Hillary is a staunch supporter of women’s equal rights is laughable. She stood silently during Bill’s Rape Tour I and Rape Tour II and her election will no doubt authorize Rape Tour III. A woman would feel far safer having a drink with Bill Cosby than Bill Clinton. Hillary’s amazing turnaround as the women’s candidate is pandering to an ignorant electorate, with many too young to know of the legend of Bill that even spawned websites like to paper over his antics. Trump sure doesn’t help himself here by acting like a chauvinistic bore that he probably is.

Now is the time to start culling the ruling class of professional politicians. These people never had a real job in a real economy and produced or serviced anything. Elect those that have actually had a job, employed others and worked for a living.

More of the STILL Continuing JPFO Rant - There’s been a few negative comments about this, but if you had a father or grandfather that fought in the Pacific during WWII, you may be alive today due to the nuclear bombing of Japan that ended the war in the Pacific. At least 1 million US and up to 4 million Japanese lives were saved when Japan surrendered, negating the anticipated invasion of Japan. My dad was Army Air Force in India and Burma during the war and was being readied for the invasion. His life was likely spared due to the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. For JFPO to allow revisionists a voice to equate these events with the Nazi Holocaust is disgusting. This rant will stay until JFPO addresses the issue. It’s been over 3 years and haven’t heard from them yet. If you don’t like it, skip it or try out your delete key.

UPDATE On JPFO - Apparently JPFO has fallen apart after the death of Mr. Zellman and other unfortunate events befallen their leadership. They have merged with the Second Amendment Foundation (SAF) sometime in  4Q 2014. SAF’s leader, Alan Gottlieb has previously stated his opposition to Class III guns, while barely tolerating semi-automatic weapons. Additionally, Gottlieb supported the Toomey/Manchen universal background check/gun registration bill. Maybe not the best of friends for automatic weapon advocates. I expressed my reservations about the “Japanese genocide” to Alan Korwin of who has joined with SAF/JPFO to promote their alliance and received a big fat no response. I even bought one of his books; how ungrateful!

 JPFO used to be a no-nonsense civil rights organization with special emphasis on the rights of self defense. Unique for a Jewish organization. Then Mr. Zellman passed away and they may have lost their compass. Last October (2011!), one of their correspondents penned an article about government sponsored genocides that included this paragraph:

    I've seen many other programs about the Nazi Holocaust -- or Shoah (the  "Catastrophe") as it's also been called -- and so have you. Along with  the Turkish slaughter of the Armenians, the Chinese "Massacre of the  Landlords", Stalin's deadly crimes, (I would also include what happened at Hiroshima and Nagasaki), and the insanity of the Cambodian Killing  Fields, the Nazi Holocaust, the principal horror of the 20th century,  was the crowning achievement of untrammeled statism in an age which, not by any means coincidentally, saw the rise of the gigantic super-government.”

Include what happened at Hiroshima and Nagasaki among the genocides of the 20th Century? We know what happened at Hiroshima and Nagasaki; Nuclear bombs were dropped on Japanese cites causing widespread destruction and massive casualties causing the previously reticent Japanese to surrender. Subsequently, the planned invasion of Japan was canceled, saving millions of Japanese and Allied lives. The casualties numbered in the hundreds of thousands. JPFO was way out-of-line to equate those acts of war with the 100s of millions liquidated by their own governments. You be the judge as I still haven’t seen any retraction from JPFO.

Machine Gun Price Guide - The definite source of machine gun price information on the Internet. The MGP contains price information for over 100 transferable automatic weapons. Navigate to the Price Guides to find a particular category and select a thumbnail for a full screen display of an easily understandable chart of average prices and trends in a high/low window over many years of history.

The uniqueness of our Constitution and the rights recognized and protected by the Bill of Rights makes the US  one of the only countries in the world to allow civilian ownership of automatic weapons. This privilege is controlled by various laws and regulations that exist to control and restrict ownership. Regardless of your stand on the fairness or even the constitutionality of the regulations, follow the links below to begin understanding what defines a machine gun an individual may own and how to acquire/dispose of them in ordinary commerce.

Links You Don’t Want to Miss

Transferability - What’s a “Transferable Gun”?

NFA Forms

The Transfer - How to Sell (Buy) a Machine Gun


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